Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Trolling the Worldwide Internet

The other day, I was watching (& lamenting, but joyfully) the last video from SheIsCatholic (YouTube channel HERE), who has now run away & joined a nunnery.  In this case, the Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist.  We at H.E. prays that she fulfills her vocation & grows in holiness & joy.  Her witness online will be missed.

But not forgotten - she seems to have started a movement of young, enthusiastic, Catholic Vloggers.  I came across one of those - SheSpeaksWithWisdom - who posed a question about someone who during Communion time at Mass took it upon themselves to dip their Sacred Host into the Chalice she was offering as an EMHC, a forbidden action we can call self-intinction.  The priest can do this, then offer the Host to a communicant, but the communicant absolutely cannot do it on their own.  You can find the Youtube page HERE.

I made a comment encouraging digilence in these matters, but shortly afterward, someone popped up with snide remarks about religion in general - a troll.  The general rule is, "Please don't feed the trolls," but I sensed from the screen name, thought chain, & language used that this was a young person who had drunk the secular, materialistic, relativistic, if-it-feels-good-do-it Kool Aid of the world, so I thought I might try to engage.  One never knows what could result from a positive exchange.  Plus, I thought others listening in might learn something useful.

I've listed the full exchange below, at least as it stands for now.  Things have been quiet for a few days.  Maybe their mommy made them go clean up their room or something : )  The "wurlwidinnernet" is an amazing thing (thanks, Al Gore!), but it can often be a cruel beast that allows us to treat each other impersonally & with disdain.  Let's pray that all people, but Catholics especially, use the web for good & as a tool of spreading Christ's peace.
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Mark G> Self intinction? Verbotten!

I know it's hard to know what to do on the spot, but as an EMHC, be prepared. People must consume the Host immediately when given. If someone walks up to you with Jesus in their hand, cover the chalice with your hand & politely ask them to consume the Host first.

If you ever see someone walking away with a Host, they need to be intercepted, charitably, of course. This is not something to treat blithely.

Why can't people just do what the Church says? Sigh...
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FatalFistFury> But doesn't religion tell you not to think because its too hard?
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MG> Sorry, Fury - the intellectual, philosophic, scientific, & theological traditions of the Catholic Church is unsurpassed. At least that's what my communique from Rome this morning said.

The liturgical rules exist to ensure we can worship together in harmony. They provide a way for us to enter the mystery we celebrate & protect against abuses. If everyone is doing their own thing, that's not really worshiping as the Body of Christ, is it?

P.S. Save the snark. Charity & good will wins every time.
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FFF> I agree, but can't we have charity and good will without religion? Am I still considered as cretin l if I help people out just because I want to and not because someone I go to church/mosque/temple? I'm not trying to flame anybody and I respect your choices albeit, my previous comment did come out of cynicism(which would also prove my lack of repect thereof) and I'm glad you caught that.
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MG> Of course people of various beliefs of no beliefs can love & act charitably towards others. Catholics hold that the Creator has inscribed the Natural Law in the soul of every person: Do good; Avoid evil. If they cooperate, God may look kindly on them in the end.

It is much harder for an atheist or even a non-Christian to give a reason for their charity or the existence of any moral absolute, esp. the reality of love. If you are genuinely open to seeking the truth, I am sure you will find it.
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FFF> So you're saying that only as a Catholic will I understand what love actually means? And I'm pretty sure that it is not man's instinct to impulsively kill their fellow kind, just as it is man's instinct to procreate. If that were the case then we would not have survived, but since you shun evolution thats another discussion.

Do you really need a reason for good will? Are you only doing it because the Bible told you to? Doesn't that contradict what good will is then?
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MG> I'm honored to have all these words put in my mouth! God has given man both natural law & divine revelation of himself. Many reject divine revelation, but do understand man's natural desire to love & do good. However, man's intellect & inclinations are darkened by his rebellion against God, the source of love & goodness itself.

In a world without God - a pure Darwinian world - the only laws are survival of the fittest & might makes right. The history of the 20th century is instructive.
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FFF> Furthermore, it is impossible for me and most reasonable people to have the Bible considered as intellectual when no one can question it nor scientific when you can't prove anything said in the Bible.
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MG> You falsely assume Catholics are biblical fundamentalists w/o bothering to find out if it's true - very sloppy reasoning. Catholics do question the Bible & seek to understand its message better. The Church knows that all truth is from God, so we can embrace a nuanced version of evolution. Did you know that it was a Catholic priest & scientist Georges Lemaître who 1st proposed the Big Bang theory? Or that the Vatican operates astronomical observatories both in Rome & w/ the Univ. of Arizona?
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MG> The historical claims of the Bible have been proven themselves over & over; new evidence is continuously being discovered. But God can also be known apart from the Bible: thru the order, beauty, & goodness of the cosmos, & thru the immensity & glory of man's own soul. Look inward & find God's handiwork.

While the Church appeals to man's head, it is his heart that most needs God's love & healing. I leave you w/ words from Augustine - Our hearts are restless, O God, until they rest in you. Salve.
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2 comments:

The Critical Mom said...

I'm with Saint Augustine--because he had the best definition of "evil" I've ever seen: it is "the absence of good."
Also, incidentally, though I'm not of the same persuasion, I really enjoyed "Girls just want to be Nuns" too.

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Mark G. said...

I love that Augustine maxim as well. It says that evil is "nothing," rather than a "something." However, sometimes it seems like evil really is a "something," doesn't it? Thanks for the comment.